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Post by nyline on Feb 23, 2023 15:17:02 GMT -5
I don't know if this quite qualifies as a concern, but I was looking at a few threads on that other forum, and I saw that one of Nebraska's incoming recruits is the daughter of former PSU football player Joe Jurevicius. Now I recall that his last season with us saw him benched for the bowl game -- www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/jurevicius-benched-for-missing-classes/article_8a0b788a-af15-5f61-a602-b0f1f3ddd474.html -- so do folks know if he's one of those letterman not entirely enamored with Dear Old State? I guess I'm just kind of surprised that daughter of PSU basketball star Carter Booth is now on to her second non-PSU B1G team, and now daughter of PSU football star Jurevicius is going to yet another B1G team that we once beat regularly but these days are looking up at in the standings. I get it that these players are their own people and don't have to choose their dad's alma mater, but I guess I am just surprised that at a school that has so many legacies that have gone through athletics that here are two prominent ones in a prominent PSU sport that got away. Just a random pondering on my lunch break... I too find both those story lines to be interesting, but I don't think either should raise any concerns. I don't know whether Jurevicius bears any animosity towards Penn State, but I doubt that even if he does, it was a deciding factor in his daughter's choice (I'm saying that mostly because it would be a bit unseemly, in my view, for a parent to limit his daugher's college choices based on events from more than two decades ago totally unrelated to the current Penn State Women's Volleyball program). As to Carter Booth, I'd note that her brother is coming to Penn State next season. So I think Carter's choice is unrelated to anything having to do with her dad's experience at Penn State. |
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Post by pinkpanther on Feb 23, 2023 16:30:57 GMT -5
I don't know if this quite qualifies as a concern, but I was looking at a few threads on that other forum, and I saw that one of Nebraska's incoming recruits is the daughter of former PSU football player Joe Jurevicius. Now I recall that his last season with us saw him benched for the bowl game -- www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/jurevicius-benched-for-missing-classes/article_8a0b788a-af15-5f61-a602-b0f1f3ddd474.html -- so do folks know if he's one of those letterman not entirely enamored with Dear Old State? I guess I'm just kind of surprised that daughter of PSU basketball star Carter Booth is now on to her second non-PSU B1G team, and now daughter of PSU football star Jurevicius is going to yet another B1G team that we once beat regularly but these days are looking up at in the standings. I get it that these players are their own people and don't have to choose their dad's alma mater, but I guess I am just surprised that at a school that has so many legacies that have gone through athletics that here are two prominent ones in a prominent PSU sport that got away. Just a random pondering on my lunch break... I too find both those story lines to be interesting, but I don't think either should raise any concerns. I don't know whether Jurevicius bears any animosity towards Penn State, but I doubt that even if he does, it was a deciding factor in his daughter's choice (I'm saying that mostly because it would be a bit unseemly, in my view, for a parent to limit his daugher's college choices based on events from more than two decades ago totally unrelated to the current Penn State Women's Volleyball program). As to Carter Booth, I'd note that her brother is coming to Penn State next season. So I think Carter's choice is unrelated to anything having to do with her dad's experience at Penn State. I guess I was more pondering this from the standpoint of thinking that here are two athletes in a sport where they have a strong family connection to PSU, and I don't think I heard a whiff of any thought that they might choose PSU. So I guess I was more feeling surprised that neither seemed to give PSU much consideration when in the past every top recruit in the country was giving PSU their attention. I know in my own personal life, I chose not to go to the school where my brother went, because I wanted to blaze my own path. I do suspect that is probably a common thing that plays into recruiting top athletes; some want to go to a place where they have a family connection, and others just want to do their own thing and don't want to feel boxed in by family choices. I literally pay zero attention to recruiting most years, and I just saw a familiar last name, verified that she is indeed the daughter of an alum, and it triggered random thoughts about recruiting. I appreciate that this forum lets me ramble even when I don't have a well formed thought, and that folks engage in a fun discussion.  |
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Post by traveler on Feb 24, 2023 14:50:56 GMT -5
Not to be snarky, but using that template, neither Starck would consider PSU because their mother played for Texas. And I think their dad had some relationship to Nebraska.
The thing I DO find relevant is that back in the 70s when Title IX was debated, pre-Title IX athletes, their parents, and some athletic departments not only disparaged the concept but claimed it would be the end of college athletics and would limit men's opportunities. Now lots of those male athletes and those that came after are having daughters that are continuing the family athletic tradition but often in a different sport. All that hate got turned into hope and opportunity for women.
Tori Dixon, Tori Gorrell, Callie Rivers, Kate Hord and countless others, had dads for whom Title IX (well, Gorrell was in Canada, but...) might have been a bit of a question mark but I'm always so tickled to see what it produced for women's collegiate sports. And of course, we have daughters of former women players, like Shifflett and so many others now.
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Post by dc155 on Feb 24, 2023 19:06:01 GMT -5
In addition to former male collegiate athletes being able to have their daughters play collegiately because of Title IX...
Coach Mark Pavlik shared in a recent interview that there's male collegiate volleyball players now (even on the PSU Men's Team) who got into volleyball because their moms played during college... women who might have never played, thus never passing on their love of volleyball to their sons, without Title IX.
Pretty cool!
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Post by nyline on Mar 25, 2023 9:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Jul 17, 2023 8:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by nyline on Jul 17, 2023 9:10:32 GMT -5
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Post by seeyajohn on Aug 31, 2023 23:24:54 GMT -5
On Tuesday night Nebraska drew 92,003 fans to a single volleyball match with Omaha. The Huskers always sell out the Devaney Center at nearly 8000 fans per game.
In 2022 PSU had 16 home dates for a total attendance of 45,862 and an average attendance of 2548.
In the 2008 season, with the greatest team in NCAA history, the Nittany Lions hosted 18 dates for a total attendance of 54,450, and an average attendance of 3025.
I have to think that this gives Nebraska a big edge in recruiting both freshmen and transfers!
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Post by evanceg on Sept 1, 2023 17:10:53 GMT -5
On Tuesday night Nebraska drew 92,003 fans to a single volleyball match with Omaha. The Huskers always sell out the Devaney Center at nearly 8000 fans per game. In 2022 PSU had 16 home dates for a total attendance of 45,862 and an average attendance of 2548. In the 2008 season, with the greatest team in NCAA history, the Nittany Lions hosted 18 dates for a total attendance of 54,450, and an average attendance of 3025. I have to think that this gives Nebraska a big edge in recruiting both freshmen and transfers! Congrats to Nebraska for pulling that event off, it's big for college volleyball and for women's sports generally. And, yes, that level of fan support is unique in volleyball and is a huge recruiting asset. Count on Nebraska finishing in the top five annually in recruiting for the foreseeable future. However, the NCAA limits scholarships and squad size per team and there are a lot more excellent volleyball prospects than the Huskers can sign. Recruiting remains an inexact science and KSC needs to get her share of the excellent prospects and transfers that Cook can't sign. So, even with Nebraska's big advantage in fan support, they're not going to coast to the national championship every year. Joe Paterno used to say (maybe quoting someone else), "It's not the recruits you lose to other schools that kill you, it's the recruits you sign that can't play." |
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Post by millenium on Sept 1, 2023 22:58:19 GMT -5
On Tuesday night Nebraska drew 92,003 fans to a single volleyball match with Omaha. The Huskers always sell out the Devaney Center at nearly 8000 fans per game. In 2022 PSU had 16 home dates for a total attendance of 45,862 and an average attendance of 2548. In the 2008 season, with the greatest team in NCAA history, the Nittany Lions hosted 18 dates for a total attendance of 54,450, and an average attendance of 3025. I have to think that this gives Nebraska a big edge in recruiting both freshmen and transfers! Good for whoever wants to go to Nebraska, but it's still... Nebraska. You gotta learn to husk corn to really love it. Anway, I think it's unfair to compare ANY program's attendance to NE, because they all pale in comparison. I'm more curious to see how PSU's attendance compares to more comparable top 10 programs. Say... Stanford, for instance. |
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Post by seeyajohn on Sept 1, 2023 23:40:37 GMT -5
Here are the top ten in average attendance for the 2022 season:
1. Nebraska; 8,190
2. Wisconsin; 7,761
3. Hawaii; 5,963
4. Minnesota; 4,758
5. Texas; 4,364
6. Ohio State; 3,609
7. BYU; 3,218
8. Michigan State; 3,208
9. Florida; 3,138
10. Iowa State; 2,991
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Post by millenium on Sept 2, 2023 6:47:43 GMT -5
Here are the top ten in average attendance for the 2022 season: 1. Nebraska; 8,190 2. Wisconsin; 7,761 3. Hawaii; 5,963 4. Minnesota; 4,758 5. Texas; 4,364 6. Ohio State; 3,609 7. BYU; 3,218 8. Michigan State; 3,208 9. Florida; 3,138 10. Iowa State; 2,991 Nebraska and Hawaii (even if it's been decades since they've won a NC) have always been in a class of their own. Wisconsin has now firmly moved into that class over the last x years, maybe decade? Texas and Minnesota have been knocking at the door. Real comparisons begin from Ohio State and down. Of all the top attended programs, I think it's important to note that their gyms are located in cities. To be honest, I'm surprised PSU gets as many as they do; thank you football. |
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Post by seeyajohn on Sept 2, 2023 7:50:28 GMT -5
And then there is wrestling.
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Post by millenium on Sept 2, 2023 19:09:45 GMT -5
And then there is wrestling. Yep! Wrestling is to PA fans what volleyball is to Nebraska fans. |
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Post by traveler on Sept 3, 2023 8:28:30 GMT -5
During the JMU Colgate match which had a bunch of production problems...the PSU wrestling video banner was inserted after a replay. Lol.
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